Comments on: 9 Ways to Shoot Past People on the Corporate Ladder http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder Not Your Typical Men's Magazine. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:48:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Haikkel http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-8934 Haikkel Sun, 24 Oct 2010 03:57:52 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-8934 Replace the Water Cooler and SMiling alot is good. Sometimes, u just forget such things. Thanks Replace the Water Cooler and SMiling alot is good. Sometimes, u just forget such things. Thanks

]]> By: Weekend Linkin’ | Man jr. http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-8347 Weekend Linkin’ | Man jr. Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:46:22 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-8347 [...] 9 ways to move up the corporate ladder (Primer) [...] [...] 9 ways to move up the corporate ladder (Primer) [...]

]]> By: D-MAC http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-6559 D-MAC Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:36:12 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-6559 All of the above can only work in a company with a care for it's employees, which is highly lacking in most of the South East Asian companies where window dressing and posting admirable profits in the local dailies are the orders of the day. Employess take a back seat. Even if we did everything on the list, none will materialise in such companies. Getting a degree in some screwed up unrelated field almost guarantees one a promotion and pay rise. The Unions here are quite powerless and any confrontation to iron out details buys us a one way ticket to the bread-lines. We also have a habit of recruiting shit-heads who resigned from our competitors. How the hell do they know what to do if they don't learn the ropes and the lay of the land..? They want the top posts but never want to learn the basics. I remember Sean Connery said in the movie Untouchables; "If you're afraid of getting a rotten apple, don't go to the barrel, get it off the tree." Unfortunately, we seem to like rotten things which goes fine with the rotten brains up in the rotten coporate ladder... Colin got it right : Hardworking people hate managment...it shows... All of the above can only work in a company with a care for it’s employees, which is highly lacking in most of the South East Asian companies where window dressing and posting admirable profits in the local dailies are the orders of the day. Employess take a back seat. Even if we did everything on the list, none will materialise in such companies.

Getting a degree in some screwed up unrelated field almost guarantees one a promotion and pay rise. The Unions here are quite powerless and any confrontation to iron out details buys us a one way ticket to the bread-lines.

We also have a habit of recruiting shit-heads who resigned from our competitors. How the hell do they know what to do if they don’t learn the ropes and the lay of the land..? They want the top posts but never want to learn the basics.

I remember Sean Connery said in the movie Untouchables; “If you’re afraid of getting a rotten apple, don’t go to the barrel, get it off the tree.” Unfortunately, we seem to like rotten things which goes fine with the rotten brains up in the rotten coporate ladder…

Colin got it right : Hardworking people hate managment…it shows…

]]> By: Bobby http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-6108 Bobby Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:34:51 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-6108 All good suggestions, but somewhat shallow and manipulative. My advice: outwork the bastards!! Do more, do it faster, do it better, do it with more professionalism, do it more times, do it for longer, ask for more, ask for more, ask for more. There is no substitute for energy, enthusiasm and performance. Results will shout down everything on the list. All good suggestions, but somewhat shallow and manipulative. My advice: outwork the bastards!! Do more, do it faster, do it better, do it with more professionalism, do it more times, do it for longer, ask for more, ask for more, ask for more. There is no substitute for energy, enthusiasm and performance. Results will shout down everything on the list.

]]> By: Colin http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-5879 Colin Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:54:25 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-5879 How about actually accomplishing quality leadership-level work? This is a bunch of superficial stuff that will make you look like an asshat if you pull it off wrong. This is why people who do real work hate management. How about actually accomplishing quality leadership-level work?

This is a bunch of superficial stuff that will make you look like an asshat if you pull it off wrong. This is why people who do real work hate management.

]]> By: How to Avoid a Dead End Job: Laying the Groundwork for a Fulfilling Career | Primer http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-5230 How to Avoid a Dead End Job: Laying the Groundwork for a Fulfilling Career | Primer Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:34:01 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-5230 [...] a lot, especially on the job. Not only will your attitude during your first week set the tone for your own work ethic, but it will also let colleagues and superiors know what to expect from you. Carefully separate [...] [...] a lot, especially on the job. Not only will your attitude during your first week set the tone for your own work ethic, but it will also let colleagues and superiors know what to expect from you. Carefully separate [...]

]]> By: Ke http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-1498 Ke Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:28:52 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-1498 Patience. Many are too eager for promotion and it shows. Patience. Many are too eager for promotion and it shows.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-1203 Nathan Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:21:55 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-1203 Do the job first, get paid for it second. Nothing shows that you are ready for a promotion like preforming at the next level. Do the job first, get paid for it second. Nothing shows that you are ready for a promotion like preforming at the next level.

]]> By: Joe http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-784 Joe Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:56:28 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-784 When you first start out, try to land a job with a nationally recognized name, at least in the field you work in. Five years from now, when you are interviewing at a new firm and they don't recognize your current firm, it doesn't do any harm, but seeing that you are coming from a seasoned corporation carries some extra weight. And it will be on your resume nearly forever, as long as it is a semi-professional position. Also, If you get stuck somewhere in middle-upper management, enroll in school. Take some master programs, or Doctorate degree classes, especially if your company will reimburse you. Just GOING to school shows that you are able to take on extra tasks and want the better position more than the next guy. If you are already in a senior level position, blatantly advertising that you are not fully educated in your field could be a drawback though. When you first start out, try to land a job with a nationally recognized name, at least in the field you work in. Five years from now, when you are interviewing at a new firm and they don’t recognize your current firm, it doesn’t do any harm, but seeing that you are coming from a seasoned corporation carries some extra weight. And it will be on your resume nearly forever, as long as it is a semi-professional position.

Also, If you get stuck somewhere in middle-upper management, enroll in school. Take some master programs, or Doctorate degree classes, especially if your company will reimburse you. Just GOING to school shows that you are able to take on extra tasks and want the better position more than the next guy. If you are already in a senior level position, blatantly advertising that you are not fully educated in your field could be a drawback though.

]]> By: Big Steve http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-546 Big Steve Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:07:22 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-546 One thing that I've found that seems to help is to never be afraid of the boss. They're people, they get dressed in the morning just like me, they have families and hobbies and skeletons in their closet. Meek and timid employees (in my experience) have to work twice as hard as the ones who can make strong eye contact, give a firm handshake, use a "big boy" voice, and act comfortable around the brass. One thing that I’ve found that seems to help is to never be afraid of the boss. They’re people, they get dressed in the morning just like me, they have families and hobbies and skeletons in their closet. Meek and timid employees (in my experience) have to work twice as hard as the ones who can make strong eye contact, give a firm handshake, use a “big boy” voice, and act comfortable around the brass.

]]> By: William Zanelli http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-122 William Zanelli Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:43:15 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-122 Great post!! Great post!!

]]> By: Paul http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/earn/9-ways-to-shoot-past-people-on-the-corporate-ladder/comment-page-1#comment-109 Paul Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:23:21 +0000 http://primermagazine.com/?p=41#comment-109 these apply if you run your own business as well. the principles apply no matter where you work or who you work with. these apply if you run your own business as well. the principles apply no matter where you work or who you work with.

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